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Liar Game Chapter 92 – Anxiety

Since just posting the links is kind of plain and boring for me.  I’m be jotting down some of my own thoughts toward each chapter.

Links:

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OneManga

MangaFox

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My Thoughts:

So round 1 of the Pandemic Game is over.  Not much has happened thus far, but it is clear how tense the atmosphere is.  Yokoya screwed everyone in the simulation, and now “trust” is at a all-time low.  It’s a good change to see Kanzaki actually coming up with some plans, although all of which have been shot down by Akiyama.  But it does make me think that having Kanzaki, Akiyama, and Akagi contact to make all 3 of them Normal is a good start.  Akiyama’s counter-argument is that no one will believe they are Normal.  But what difference would that make?  Once they are normal, they can offer the same services that Yokoya provided.  “We will contact with anyone regardless of status”.  Of course, they won’t have as big of an advantage, since Kanzaki, Akagi, and Akiyama will be “Normal+2”, “Normal+1”, and “Normal+0”.  But the other players will still contact with them because there is no benefit for Kanzaki, Akagi, and Akiyama to lie.

To summarize, here’s what I would’ve done if I’m Akiyama.  Tell the other players the truth that Akagi is “Infected”.  I don’t care if they believe me or not, but I will need to state this.  Then perform contact in the following order IN FRONT OF OTHER PLAYERS:

1. Contact with Kanzaki ->produce vaccine

2. Contact with Akagi -> cure Akagi, I become Infected

3. Have Akagi contact with Kanzaki -> produce vaccine

4. Contact with Kanzaki -> Kanzaki is now “Infected+1”, I’m “Normal+0”

5. Have Kanzaki Activate. -> Kanzaki is now “Normal+0”

6. Contact Akagi -> produce vaccine

7. End result: Akiyama (+1), Akagi (+2), Kanzaki (+0)

After this is finished, tell the other players the end result (show them on paper), and ask them to contact with Akagi.  If anyone asks “What if you’re lying?”.  Then I would say “lying about what?”.  The only thing I can lie about is that either 1) There were 2 Infected and now all 3 of us are Infected, or 2) None of us were Infected, so all 3 of us are “Normal+3”.  Assuming I lied and we’re actually all Infected, WHY would I do that?  What can I possibly gain from making myself Infected when I WAS a Normal just to spread the virus even farther.  There’s absolutely nothing I can gain from this.  It is obvious Yokoya screwed up Kanzaki’s plan in simulation, so there’s no way we’re working with Yokoya to screw the other players even more.  So there’s no logical explanation at all for 1) to be true.  If we lied and we’re all “Normal+3”, then … that’s even better for the other players right?  Why would I not just say that to start?

So basically, I think that’s one way to win, it might not go as smoothly as I imagined, but it does seem like a viable solution.  It should be pretty obvious by the end of the chapter that Akiyama’s doing something different.  But I just want to throw my idea out here since I personally find it to be a pretty straightforward method to win this game.

Categories: Liar Game
  1. Okama-kun
    November 18, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    a great chapter Oo !

    thanx you so much .

    waa ,i can’t wait to find out the trick of akiyama xD

  2. Okama-kun
    November 18, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    ah an also ,I think that you can’t contact 2 times with the same person ^^ (i’m talking about your idea )

    • November 18, 2009 at 3:16 pm

      You can contact as many times as you’d like. But you can only produce vaccines once. I’m pretty sure that’s how it is. Yokoya’s plan in chapter 90 require 2 person to contact multiple times to work.

  3. BP+2
    November 18, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    MMmm…. One big flaw with your plan: the remaining infected. At some point, he will infect Akagi, who will then infect everyone…

    However, then Akagi can check his status after each round or press the “activate” button on his watch (or w/e it was) which will cure him in case he becomes infected (and he’ll have cured the infected) and this will work even if he contacts the infected person first.

    I came up with a plan earlier, too. This is what I would’ve done: first you need to explain the entire plan to everyone, so they understand what’s going on. The infecteds need to come forward. Then everyone except the infecteds contact ONCE. During the break, they can see if the number of infecteds increased; if it did, they know someone lied about being infected. If someone did lie, they can do some tests and stuff and tell who it is again by however many infecteds there are in the next break period. After that they’ll know exactly who is infected and who isn’t, and can then contact freely with the other normal players.

    Anyway, my guess for Akiyama’s plan: He’s observed people and figured out who is the other people (or at least his guess). He’ll then go around and do that when he gets to Akagi and the other infected person :3

    Oh, and last but not least, thanks for the chapter!

    • November 19, 2009 at 9:22 am

      Yea, I didn’t clarify that point. Akagi would need to click Activate after each round to make sure he’s not Infected. Your plan of using the break period to watch Infection is good, but I think some people might not go with it, since they don’t want to be the unlucky one who gets Infected by a liar. Maybe I’m missing something here though. hahaha

      • BP+2
        November 19, 2009 at 12:49 pm

        That’s why I clearly stated that everyone needs the planned to be explained. Even if they are infected by a liar, they’ll still be able to do stuff to find out who the liar is, and in the end they’ll still be able to get enough vaccines to win and everything.

  4. Drop
    November 19, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Your plan sounds applicable, but a bit risky.. say what if the other players still doubt Akayama and co and think they might have gone and joined Yokoya? I think it would be foolproof to first announce to the remaining players that Akagi is infected, then contact among the mini group as explained by you and then wait for the second round to end and the screen to show up only one infected. Then after all doubts are clear they’d just have to contact in the round robin way so there will be two infected left with each two vaccines. Then have the people check on their statuses and cure themselves if necessary. In the end have everyone else contact to create more than four vaccines for everybody in that group.

    My guess for Akiyama’s plan is that the device works by applying a little bit of pressure, or shaking slightly, on the end of the rod which he holds in his hand, which in turn causes the outer ball to move but not the inner. By announcing that the device can differ between infected and not infected, he’d pass it on to all the other people. The ones who know that they aren’t would just calmly hold the rod in their hands, however, the ones who are infected would probably get nervous and slightly shake while holding the rod, causing the other ball to move. That’s just a guess though, and I don’t know if it would work in praxis, haha.

    And sorry, if my English sounds awkward, since my mother tongue is another. :p

    • BP+2
      November 19, 2009 at 12:48 pm

      That’s a pretty cool idea. I don’t think you can shake the stick in a way so that just the outer ball moves, but if there’s a way that he can “lock” the inner string (I have no idea) then that nervous-shaking-thingy could work.

  5. Drop
    November 19, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    Oh, and I forgot to mention, thanks so much for scanlating! I’m really glad that someone picked Liar Game up again after another group stopped scanlating! :))

  6. Crown Clown
    November 19, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    I think you should start scanlating Team Medical Dragon once you’re caught up with Liar Game!

    • November 19, 2009 at 3:37 pm

      That’s probably too much of a challenge for me. I would need a pre-med or doctor on my scanlating team to do that one =P

  7. Seres
    November 20, 2009 at 5:03 am

    I’m thinking Akiyama may have lied and is also infected which is why he shot those plans down. What if he lied to Nao? Him being infected may be their trump card.

  8. Irankoa
    November 21, 2009 at 3:09 am

    Thank you for your hard work.
    Your desciption make think more of it…Akiyama trick – I think it’s only trick, because it can’t be that simple machine could really say who is infected…but I have to wait for the next chapter to read more about how it works. Akiyama infected – that’d be most suprising thing in this game. It was really hilarius moment – Nao and her plans just simply rejected by Akiyama 😛

  9. borabora
    November 21, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    Sankyuuu~~~~

  10. Markka
    November 22, 2009 at 1:16 am

    Wouldnt this work:
    Everyone comes in circle, they ask the infected to come front, THEN they start one by one to make the vaccines, BUT everytime they do this they’ll go to check their status in the booth thing. So if someone lies he will be found out.

  11. Null
    November 22, 2009 at 9:19 am

    i am null and i suck.

  12. Goud
    November 22, 2009 at 10:35 am

    ^^^ Yes null you do.

  13. HiNoTori
    November 23, 2009 at 3:54 am

    Hallo everybody!
    Thanks for the scanslations cityshrimp!
    Now to my explanation:

    I thnk your plan wouldn’t work because there is no trust between the players which is a must.(i.e. there could be another Yokoya member etc…)
    I think it will rather go like this:

    1.Let’s think about the sitiuation from Yokoyas view.He and his 2 members won the simulation.Here starts the first misunderstanding everyone has.
    It was said that the top three winners will not be selected randomly as infected.That doesn’t mean that they all start as normal, it means they can CHOOSE their status.
    My thinking is he commanded 1 of his men to be infected because:
    I.He will win the game by doing nothing if everybody is afraid(because of his betrayel in the first place) to do anything(Top 6 winner rule) because it will be like this
    Normal+2
    Normal+1
    Normal+0(x9)
    Infected+0
    It should be noted that this is his reserve plan.He wants to control the game so we come to his true plan.

    II.It is a fact that it’s posible for everybody to notice others when they contact. He will contact with some of his team to make them think even more ther’s no infected in them.You will notice he only contacted with one member and then started to talk to distract people.(That’s because there must beone infected with them for the 10:2 score to fool the others)
    His plan is as follows:
    He knows that there is 1 infected amongst the others.He will lure him with his offer and also a normal player to make it seem logic to others.
    Everybody thinks his team is



    but it’s in reality
    N+1
    N+1
    Infected
    First everybody will contact with the normal player resulting in:



    [Infected+1] []=new member
    Next they will contact with the infected member which will result in:



    [N+1]
    He will tell the 2 to contact each other because there should be no Infected left and they’re one team:
    which will result in:
    [Infected+0]
    [Normal+1]
    He will make sure the infected member will leave the team with some excuse.
    Yokoya will also declare that only one player was infected to make them afraid to contract.Since he destroyed trust between each other everybody would want to contract with infected(because they think it’s fact that he’s normal) resulting in a virus outbreak.
    Ruled the game=won the game
    He proved his point buuuuuut…

  14. HiNoTori
    November 23, 2009 at 4:27 am

    …Akiyama is as smart as always.
    The plan of Yokoya has some flaws.Distrust is needed between players.If there is no distrust he will certaintly fail.
    First Akiyama proved to be intelligent, that’s the impression they have of him.

    The winner of the game is one who earns the trust of others,but how?
    The trump card of Akiyama is bandana man.Because he is infected he can use this fact against yokoya.
    1.He will say he can know the infected person with his trick pointing to bandana(the way he does it isn’t important though it is a simple trick)

    2.He will prove it in some way like contacting with kanzaki and bandana which will heal bandana.They will see it on the monitor if the break starts.
    11:1
    They will believe him because it is fact they were the only ones contacting.

    3.After that he uses that thing again to say that there is one infected among yokoyas group.

    He wins,but
    itwouldn’t be yokoya if there wasn’t a turnaround plan

  15. HiNoTori
    November 23, 2009 at 4:28 am

    Sorry for the multiple posts!

  16. Seres
    November 25, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Hehe I love reading everyone’s theories bout this manga. It really makes you think about the possibilities which may arise. Truly embraces it’s psychological genre. Needless to say, it’s one of my fave ongoing manga atm.

  17. Zacky
    November 25, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Thanks for the uploads.

    But your solution is based on trust again. Because if Akiyama said that to me:

    I would assume he attempts to infect everyone and then get normal by Yokoya. So everyone falls into the pit.

    Only the readers know that Akiyama is not teamed up with Yokoya. The people in the story, don’t.

    So basically, that’s what you always gotta remember.

    • HiNoTori
      November 26, 2009 at 5:50 pm

      He cannot infect everyone:
      Let’s assume it happens as I said before.
      If they take turns it wouldn’t be an virus outbreak because there’s only one infected in the game.

      AND there’s one big point against what you said:
      It is obvious that only Bandana,Kanzaki and Akiyama conected this round.
      It is also fact that it became 11:1 after that.
      It is impossible for Akiyama to be infected let’s go through it:
      If one of them is infected it ends up whith one infected member.If he doesn’t do anything it will stay 10:2 right?If he uses the vaccine it will be 11:1
      If the two infected are amongst them all three will be infected which would be 9:3

      So he get’s their trust by the use of facts

      • HiNoTori
        November 26, 2009 at 5:54 pm

        He would command only Bandana to press the button which will make everyone believe him even more after the score is displayed.

        Sorry for double posting again

  18. Nils
    December 1, 2009 at 8:16 am

    My idea;
    2nd round.
    Explain what your going to do to everyone.
    Akiyama contacts with a random dude.
    The same dude contacts Nao.
    Nao contacts Akiyama.
    Bandana infects Nao.
    Nao heals herself

    The status screen will show 1 infected if the random dude was clean and 4 infected if he was infected (or if Akiyama is infected for that matter).

    3rd round.
    Assuming the screen showed “1 infected”:
    Refuse to contact with anyone before they heal the last remaining infected.
    If Yokoya have bribed someone they have the random dude as a backup.
    (Plus Bandana, if the bribed player contact with him.)
    Everyone is clean.
    Party!

    There is however a one in six chance that the screen show “4 infected”. If so, everyone will know who they are and can heal them and get 4 vaccines.

    Why would people trust Akiyama over Yokoya?
    Because they would rather trust someone who will end up giving they the prize money if he wins.
    Yokoya will end up putting them all in debt.

    Also there is the off chance that Yokoya has a total of six people on his team.
    That, however, wouldnt make any sense since only one of them can be infected. Which means that they can all go above 4 vaccines without any tricks.

    I liked this stage because you could make your own theories and “participate” yourself.
    However, there is so many fool proof ways to beat this challenge in this comment section alone that anything less than an easy victory would seem kind off redundant.

    I know what Akiyamas going to do since that last page. I just wanted to show off my intelligence to the internet 😛

    Sorry for the long post :\

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